Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University Rebecca Morrice Interview March 6, 2025 Bailey Library, Slippery Rock University, Slippery Rock, Pennsylvania Interviewed by Alana Colvin Transcribed by Alana Colvin Proofread and edited by Judy Silva Reviewed and approved by Rebecca Morrice AC: All right, so today is Thursday, March 6th, 2025, about 2:30pm, and I'm interviewing Rebecca Morrice for the Rock Voices project. RM: Yeah, thank you. Thanks for having me here. AC: So, yeah, if you could just tell us your name, date of birth, where you're from. RM: Sure. Rebecca Morrice. I was born in 1971, so that dates me, right [laughs]? I'm originally from Illinois; I grew up in the Chicago area. My education: I went to the University of Illinois in Chicago for my bachelor's degree, where I started out in architecture, but finished in art history. And then I went to the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, where I got my Master of Fine Arts in Costume Design, and that was in 1996; ‘93 was my B.A. and ‘96 was my MFA. AC: Okay. How about here at Slippery Rock now, what's your affiliation? When did you get hired? RM: Yeah, so I started here in 1997. I was brought in, first as an instructor, in the Theater Department. And the connection–I have a little bit of a connection here. A friend who I had gone to grad school with had been hired here, and he reached out to me when I was living out in Baltimore, working in professional theater. He reached out to me to say that there was a position opening up that he thought I was really qualified for and wanted me to try for it. And I'll be honest with you, at the time, because of my age, I wasn't sure I was going to do it yet. I knew I wanted to teach, but I thought it was going to be some years down the line still. I thought, you know, I'll give it a shot, I'll see what this is like. And I wound up really liking what I saw here. And apparently they must have [laughs] liked me somehow. And, anyway, so 28 years later, here I am. Did I miss anything? AC: No, no. You're fine. RM: Okay. AC: Prior to getting hired at SRU what other positions have you held in in your field? Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 2 RM: Sure. Well, I came here pretty soon after I got out of graduate school. I was somebody who went right from undergrad to graduate school. And then I spent a year, out in Baltimore working for Center Stage, which is a professional theater company out there. I absolutely loved the company that I was working for. We were doing really interesting work, working with some really amazing people. I was not a fan of Baltimore, which is not a popular opinion for some people. But, anyway, I was not a fan of the city itself. I wish I could have picked up that company and just moved someplace else, but I was doing professional costume work out there. I was doing some film work as well, and I got the call to apply for this position. So, I was actually only out of graduate school for a year before I started working here. Other than that, I had worked while I was in graduate school. Some other professional companies that I had worked for included the American Players Theater, which is a Tony-nominated, regional theater company. I had been working there for a couple or few years, and I continued that work during the summers after I started here as well. So yeah, but I started here pretty quick afterwards, so I wasn't out in the big wide world for very long. AC: Can you think of any factors that might have inspired your career choice? RM: Sure, yeah. So when I was in high school, I really enjoyed – I had been taught to sew. My mom and my grandmother had taught me – and I had been really interested in making my own clothing. But I never really considered anything related as a career. Originally, I was going to be a veterinarian, but that's a whole story for another time. And then when I was in high school, I had the chance to take an architectural drafting class and really kind of discovered a love of architecture. So when I started undergrad, I really thought that my path was that I was going to be an architect. And there were a lot of things that happened in that first year or so that changed that path. And one of them was working with the Theater Department at the University of Illinois in Chicago, and I had the chance to work with a professional costume designer while I was there. And by the end of my time working with her, she told me, “You have some choices here. You know, you could do this as a career.” I think most people don't know that it even is a career path, you know? And I definitely didn't think of it at the time. And so I was really interested in her telling me that I could consider it as a career path and that I should either go to graduate school or she would hire me as her assistant, and I could get on-the-job training, essentially. And my eventual choice was to go to grad school for it so that I could really get the school part of what I needed. And that's really how it happened. It was kind of this organic process of making my way through some majors. When I first left architecture, the natural progression for me was set design, and part of the reason I went into the Theater Department was because I was interested in exploring what does architecture look like without some of the rules attached, or when you're actually using architecture for storytelling purposes. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 3 There was an interesting sort of–for me–there was a connection between architecture and kind of the anthropology parts of things that I was interested in. And then eventually I segued off into costumes because the sewing skills and all that kind of stuff became a natural way for me to go. So, yeah, just a strange little path. AC: Yeah, that's really cool. RM: Yeah, I got here eventually. AC: So back to your time at SRU, can you tell us what buildings you've worked in or how you've seen the department change over time? RM: So when I first started here, I was in Miller [Auditorium]–what I call Miller 1.0 because the Miller that's there now we call 2.0. But the first iteration of Miller was where the Theatre Department was really housed after it–I forget the exact year that the Theatre Department split from Communication and became its own department. But really, that was our home, you know, our offices were there, our classrooms were there. The theater that we performed in was there. So everything that we did on campus was in that one building. What happened, and there's a longer story to all of this, but what eventually happened is that the administration got behind the idea that the building needed to be renovated and that there needed to be some changes to the performing arts spaces. And there was a plan in place that eventually wound up getting scrapped for a whole variety of reasons and had to be, you know, kind of rethought. But when we left Miller, we had to move out in order for them to renovate the spaces. And it was originally supposed to be two years that we were out of there. And where we were housed in those two years was the University Union, what was called the old University Union, and is now the Student Success Center. And so we became initially one of the only people that was in that huge building by ourselves. Eventually other people moved in. But what was supposed to be a two-year time turned into ten. Because the original plan for the remodeling of the performing arts building and Miller Theater, kind of fell through. There [were] a lot of things attached to that. And it took them a while to get the ball rolling on that. And so two years became ten where we were in that temporary space. And we made do. I think we did a lot of exciting work in there. But what we started to really miss was we weren't in a real theater space anymore and our students weren't getting the kind of training that they needed to get in order to, like, learn how to use a fly system and how to use technology. We had a makeshift scene shop. But we didn't really have the same kind of setup that we'd had before. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 4 So, fast forward now to 2021, the year that we were finally given the keys to the new performing arts center, which is two buildings now: the building that’s called the Performing Arts Center, but Miller Theater is inside of it, and it got a big expansion. And then, of course, Stoner, which used to be referred to as East-West Gym, and it's now called Stoner East and Stoner West – also known as the Pearl Stoner Instructional Complex. And that's where we're at now. So our offices and our classrooms are primarily over in Stoner. And then we perform the bigger shows that we do over at Miller. The other interesting thing that happened was we used to all be under one roof, so now we have a scene shop that's in the Performing Arts Center and our costume shop is over in Stoner. So there's a lot of interesting back and forth that we have to do between the two buildings. AC: Do you think that limits efficiency or communication? RM: Well that's interesting. I'm glad you asked that question. I think it actually does limit communication quite a bit, because us being all underneath one roof meant that even when we were passing in the hallways, you know, in the past there would be conversations about like how we were solving certain things or what progress had been made on a certain part of the project. Those little conversations kind of amounted cumulatively to a lot of communication happening. So being in two separate buildings does present challenges that way. Our technical director is primarily over at Miller. And so I only see him when we're in a meeting together, and very rarely do we cross paths otherwise. That can be challenging. And, you know, we're working through it, though. Every place has its little quirks. But yeah, it's working out well. It's nice to be in facilities where the technology is up to date, the space feels fresh. It's more inviting, I think, to students and to community members. So that's been exciting. AC: What were your first impressions when you came to SRU? RM: That's a great question. Well, when I first came here again, my friend Paul Jennings was the person who was here who invited me to come out. I had visited him before that, and he had shown me around campus. One of the things I always liked about Slippery Rock, and part of what made me decide to come here when the job was offered, was I really liked that the campus was small enough to be walkable, but big enough to feel like it wasn't like this tiny little campus. It's kind of like in some way, sort of a perfect size. I also liked how well it was taken care of. You see that as soon as you compare it to so many other schools. But the care that was taken and making the campus look inviting was something that, interestingly enough, came up a lot of times when we were interviewing people for positions here. One of the first things people would note was the landscaping and [pause] that they thought it was a beautiful campus. And I didn't think much of that until somebody explained it to me once Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 5 that you can read a lot into, especially the financial health of an institution by how well its grounds are kept. Right? And I never thought about that before. I thought it was an interesting viewpoint that the first thing to go when you're having financial problems is the landscaping, right? They’re not planting flowers; things don't look as nice. And I thought that was a really interesting perspective that I hadn't really considered before, that it kind of gives you a snapshot of the university as a whole. And the other thing that I really liked is everything felt like a community, like a family. I came from two [pause] very large institutions where the campuses were very big, sometimes in two halves. Like in Chicago, it was split by a mile in between the two halves of campus. There was a lot . . . and from departments too that were really big. So, like the department that I went to for my master's degree, in total, there were I think 250 students in that department at the time that I was there. Which, depending on who you are, you know, how you're defining it that's small or big. For me, it was pretty huge. And what it meant was that a lot of people didn't know each other and you didn't get to know your faculty. And when I came here, it was very clear that the students get to know the faculty, that there was a close working relationship that we had with them. It wasn't just a person who was standing in the front of the room that you never saw otherwise. It was like everybody was kind of all hands in. And there was something about that that I really liked. You know, theater is a lot about problem solving. It's a very unique set of problems that you are working to find ways to solve, all the way up until your performances. Getting to know the people that you're working with in a way where there's almost like, I don't know, an unspoken language that kind of happens when you're in a department that’s small enough that you can figure those things out. AC: Right. RM: So that's really one of the things, a couple of things, anyway, that really appealed to me about this place in particular. Because before that, Pennsylvania was always–I was from Illinois, we had relatives in New Jersey–Pennsylvania was the state that it took the longest to drive through [laughs], right? So I didn't have a lot of frame of reference for Pennsylvania. And when I came here, I just loved–you know, it's a beautiful part of the state. I like where we're positioned, that we're close enough to the city, but still we get that kind of out in the country kind of feel. So there was a lot of things. AC: Have there been any big changes that you've noticed, for better or for worse? RM: You mean the campus in general? AC: Yeah, with administration or classrooms or anything. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 6 RM: It's interesting. There are some things that have stayed remarkably the same. And then there are things that are totally different, like the residential suites. The residence halls that are here on campus. Of course, that was just a field when I first got here. A lot has changed in regards to the student housing part of the campus. And at the same time, Old Main, you know, almost looks exactly the same. There's certain things that that look very traditional and things that have changed. There's a lot that's changed with my department. When I first came here, we averaged usually between about 40 to 50 majors – 50 would be on the high end of things, but sometimes dipping down into the low 30s. We're at 120 majors now. AC: Wow. RM: So that's been one of the major changes for us, is just how big the growth of the department has been, especially in the last five years. That's a big part for me as well. Town is, in so many ways, exactly the same. You know, there's not a lot that's changed about town. Now, where Sheetz is [laughs] has changed! You know, it's funny when you tell people that Dunkin Donuts used to be the Sheetz. So there's little things like that, but it's also remarkably very similar to, like, when I first came here in ‘97. The people, you know, it's interesting, I could say the same thing about the people. There are some people that I've been here with the whole time. I find that really remarkable. And then there's other people where there's just constant shift. I don't know, there's an old saying about that, “The more things change, the more they stay the same." So there's a really kind of nice blend, I think, of progress in the things that I think we need to see progress in, but then, also some traditional things that stick around. AC: Have there been any specific leaders, like presidents or deans or any unions have really made an impression on you? RM: Yeah. That's great. You know APSCUF is the faculty union, and APSCUF has been very influential for me. You know, when I first came here I was 25 years old, and I had never worked in a union before. I didn't really know all the ins and outs. And I think that I've had a lot of education about that while I've been here. And I think that that group and the people in it have been one of the biggest influences on me since I've been here, in a very positive way. A lot of the leaders from that group, I still consider some of the most amazing people I think I've known. Like Jace Condravy, who was the president of APSCUF several years ago, but is now retired. Ben Shaevitz was another one. Our current, Jason Hilton, the current president of the union, I think is an amazing human. They're really amazing leaders. And so I think that they provide really wonderful examples to people. So that's been really influential. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 7 I would say that Robert Smith was probably one of the presidents that I've experienced that had the most direct impact on me in my area, but also was just a very charismatic person. You know, he was a president who not only, in my sense of how I saw things, got a lot done. But he also was a very personable human. He was very approachable, very easy to talk to, so he was another person as well. There's been some other people throughout the years, a number of the colleagues that I have in the Theatre Department have been huge–have had huge impacts on me. Ken Harris was the chair of the Theatre Department when I first came here. He went on to be the mayor of Slippery Rock after he retired. And I wound up working with my friend Paul Jennings for a few years. Right now, one of my colleagues is Aaron Galligan-Stierle. He's just another amazing human out in the world, making the world a better place. But there's been a lot of people like that I can think of. Cindy LaCom is another person who recently retired who was kind of influential in my way of seeing how the university functioned. Patrick Burkhart, you know Patrick . . . it's always fun to be in a room where Patrick Burkhart is speaking. So there's a number of people. Judy Silva has been a constant for me for all these years and has been really helpful for our department. So there's a lot of people. I think one of the people that may not get enough credit in terms of their impact on the university over the years is Carrie Birckbichler, who is one of the people in charge of finance for the university, has been really helpful. When we were trying to grow our department by having a BFA program, she was really instrumental in us being able to structure that process. So there's a lot of people that I think kind of go unsung in a lot of ways. But, yeah, definitely been a lot of people that have been influential. AC: Are you involved in any other campus organizations or committees? RM: Sure, yeah. Over the years there’s been a number. I think one of the first big committees that I got involved in was the University Curriculum Committee. That was a really big part of my education as a faculty member. I started out first as just a committee member, and I eventually wound up being the chair and co – chair of that committee, with Jason Hilton. And I think if there's any one committee that I feel like I learned the most about how the university works and about how curriculum works, it was through that committee. Just seeing the different ways that people would design curriculum, seeing the different ways that it impacted students, and how that whole process kind of works was really helpful for me – especially when it came time for me to create a new program. So that was really helpful. I've worked on the Middle States Accreditation Committee. That was another really big part of my time here. I've been on the Professional Development Committee. I've been on countless search committees. So there's been there's been quite a few. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 8 We had an internal committee within the department for when we were creating the BFA program. That was probably one of the most ambitious things that we've done as a department – was to bring in and create a new degree program. And that's really what led to our growth, right, is that we were trying to create a professional training program within the Theatre Department. And that's what led to us being able to have a Concentration in Musical Theater, which has been really popular. Being involved in and being a member of APSCUF again, as I mentioned before, has been really helpful to me. AC: Could you talk a little bit more about the Middle States Commission? I know that was in the last few years, the university was reaccredited, right? RM: Right. So the Middle States Commission, I worked very closely with Mary Hennessy on that. And it was a several year process of us doing a self-study where we were looking at all the different criteria and standards that the Middle State Accreditation body holds and making sure that we were meeting those standards. And it was, like I said, it was a good three years of taking time to really look at all these different areas of the university. And it engaged – I wish I could tell you right now how many people ended up being on the committee and a total – but it was over 100 easily across the university. And it was a really remarkable thing because [pause] there's no way to learn more about a university than being involved in the self-study. You're looking at every aspect of what we do here, and [laughs] in the end the great outcome that came from that was that not only did we gain reaccredited status, but we did not have any follow-up actions that needed to happen. AC: Oh, that's great! RM: I couldn't tell you statistically how often that happens. I will say that it was a remarkable thing for us to come away with that and not have any follow-ups that needed to happen. And so I'm particularly proud of that project. AC: Do you have any other accomplishments that you want to talk about? RM: Yeah, a number of the things that we've been involved with in the Theatre Department, they're so fleeting but they're so important – especially for the students that are involved. We have partnered ever since I've been here with the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, on something called ACTF, which is the Kennedy Center American College Theater Festival. And it's an opportunity for college and university theater programs to – I wouldn't say necessarily compete with each other, but that through different regional bodies we get to see each other's work. We get to respond to each other's work. We kind of get to see what's going on in all these other like-minded or, you know, similar theater programs. And our students not only get the opportunity to get feedback from professionals in the industry, but they also get to go to the Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 9 annual festival where they do get to compete for scholarships, where they get to see examples of work because some of the shows travel to the regional festival. And I've had a number of students over the years that I've been proud to mentor who have made it to the national level and being able to compete at the Kennedy Center. That's one of the things I think I'm the most proud of, is that work that I get to do with students one on one, where we really get to know each other, and then they get to go and show the world what they can do. And to have students make it to the national level is something that I haven't been able to do as much of recently because I became chair in . . . I forget what year that was. I've been chair for, I think it's eight years now? Wow, I should do the math sometime. But I've been chair of the department for a while, and that does take up quite a bit of my time. So I haven't been able to involve myself in that as much, and I'm looking forward to trying to reinvest myself with that. But the time that I get to spend with students on things like Kennedy Center for the American College Theater Festival, or – we actually right now had a group of students leave with my colleague in the department to go to the United States Institute of Theater Technology conference, where it's a group of about eight students who are going with one faculty member to kind of go and immerse themselves in all the latest theater technology. Those are the things that I really look forward to the most, because those are the things the students come back years later and tell you how impactful those moments were. There's another program that we do where we travel, sometimes just with a group of students, but sometimes we travel an entire show and we take it over to Edinburgh, Scotland, and we attend the Fringe Festival there. And the Fringe Festival is the biggest theater festival in the world, and there's theater from all over the world that that travels to that space. And in Edinburgh for the entire month of August, every year, the entire city turns into this theater haven. And literally our students will come back to us now that they’re alumni, and they often talk about their lives before Scotland and their lives after Scotland, because that trip where we spent two weeks just kind of immersing ourselves in it is so impactful for them. And Covid kind of got in the way of that trip and we're trying to get it back up on its feet again. But those kinds of projects that we're working on where we get to really spend time with students and be impactful, those are the things I really love being involved in. AC: Well, can you think of any major events that happened while you were here, like cultural events, or historical? RM: I can tell you exactly where I was standing when 9/11 happened. I mean, that's one of those things, I remember when I was little, people always like “where were you when John F. Kennedy . . .” you know. And I was in Miller watching when that happened. And so that was obviously a hugely unfortunate event, but I do very much remember where I was, and it was here on campus when that happened. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 10 Some other things . . . I remember the strike really well. There was a, thankfully short, faculty strike. That had some real impact and was an important event. You always wish you hadn't had to have gotten there, but the faculty strike was another one that stands out. Of course, I was here all during Covid, not only as it was happening, but then, of course that full year that we were teaching completely online. And really that one was big because we had to redefine what we do. I mean, we still have this obligation and responsibility for our students to still continue their training. But how do you do that in a live performance art where you can't be live with one another? And some of the work that I'm proudest of me and my colleagues for creating came out of that, specifically because we had to reinvent it. We created a piece called Making Melrose, which was a musical that we commissioned from connections that one of my colleagues has, and it really was a filmed musical. But the interesting thing about it beyond that was that it was filmed with the students being their own tech people in their dorm rooms. We basically put together packages for the students that had all the technology they needed in it, plus the costume pieces that had been created for them, and then sent those packages to them. They set up their own filming studios in their dorm rooms, because it was then in the thick of Covid when you couldn't go anywhere. And they became their own tech person, cameraman, you know, and so we recorded all that and then made it essentially into a movie – which is still on YouTube [laughs], by the way. But that was really remarkable because our students learned so many things about unexpected areas of what we do. And we kind of created this sort of new art form, I guess, in the midst of all of it. So that was a big event. I'm trying to think of some of the other things. I mean, there was a time where there was a name for it, but I can't pull it out of my head right now. But there was a windstorm that came through here, and it probably was about 12 years ago, that had power shut down to the bulk of downtown Slippery Rock for a week. And watching people kind of navigate – it was funny because on Main Street, one side of the street had power, the other side of the street didn't. It was just interesting seeing how people were solving those problems. But that was another interesting one as well. AC: How do you think those big events impact the community at Slippery Rock as a whole? Can you tell? RM: I think a lot of things, I mean maybe not in the long term – I think it's hard to tell sometimes because sometimes change happens in such a gradual way. I think one of the things that was always interesting is just seeing, you know, how people come together to problem solve. When these problems happened they didn't really keep people from doing the things they needed most to do, but that they came together to do it. I know that sounds kind of cliché, but I mean, it really was what happened. I think that's one of the main things I would say about it. AC: So I'm going to ask you some fun questions, okay? Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 11 RM: Okay, great [laughs]! AC: Do you have a favorite class to teach and why is it your favorite class? RM: You know, it's funny, I knew this question was coming, and I can name each one of them as being a favorite for a completely different reason. So I guess it depends on what we're basing it on, right? I would say that if I had to pick one, you know, just it kind of surprised me when I came to this realization too. History of Theater Design and Architecture is an upper division theater history course that I teach. And so, within our program, just as a very short explanation of the course, in order to prepare our students for the possibility of graduate school in their futures, one of the things that we want to make sure that they do is they not only have foundational theater history, but they also have some kind of advanced theater history. It prepares them better if they're going to go to graduate school later for theater. And the class that we invented for the design and technology majors, again, is called History of Theater Design and Architecture. And it's meant to look at theater history, not by just seeing what different movements or kinds of theater – that's part of the class – but it's really looking at how the architecture changed. And this is where I kind of got to go back and delve into my architecture background. Because I was one of the people who created the course, and I was given a lot of latitude to create it. And it's looking at theater history through a kind of different lens than people are used to looking at it. We look at the theater spaces, like we look at what theater buildings look like and how they've changed over time out of necessity and cultural changes. One of the reasons why I would name it as my favorite class is because this is the class that after students have taken it will come back to me, sometimes years later, and they'll say, “that was the favorite class I ever took.” And part of the reason was because they recognized by the end not only that they learned, but that it allowed them to make connections with so many other classes that they took on campus. You know, so like a lot of students will tell me “Oh, I remember we learned about this in Ancient and Medieval World” which is – I'm not even sure if we have that class anymore, but it was a class a lot of people took because of the Liberal Studies/Rock Studies program. And that class and this one and this one, and they were making all those kind of connections and relying on that information that they had from those classes and kind of condensing it or synthesizing it in my class. But they felt the most challenged, but also felt the most – their final project, inevitably, is them recreating something in a reasonably historic way from the past that could still be used in theater today. And I think some of them wound up making these interesting discoveries about techniques that they not only didn't know existed before the class started, but, “Oh my gosh, now Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 12 I can do this thing and I'm going to take it into the next time I do a show, I'm going to use this technique I used.” You know, I've often told my students that I think some of the best learning opportunities that you have – I go back to – I'll give you an example of the single biggest learning experience I had in graduate school, which was when our teacher came in and, without all the details of what the class was about, basically came in and, we had done a little bit of prep work, a little bit of homework, getting ready for the class session. And she came in and she said, “Okay, now go do it,” and walked out of the room and all of us were just so baffled. We were like, “Wait, she's not going to show us what to do? She's not going to tell us what to do?” And her point was, because of course she would, it’s not like she disappeared, or anything. But her point was, “You already have the knowledge to solve this problem and to do the thing. Me holding your hand isn't going to get you there at this point. It could, but it's not. I mean, yes, I could hold your hand, but if I let you figure it out, knowing that you already have the building blocks, you're going to remember this process more. You're going to learn more from it.” And of course, she was 100% right. You know I think the most I learned from any single project in graduate school was from that particular one. And in some ways, my final project in that class does that a little bit. I don't let them completely, you know, I don't give them the sense that they've got no help if they need it. But I also don't – I'm not holding their hand the whole time. It is a 300-level history class, so there is an expectation. But I think that's why I love that class so much, is because I have such close connection with the students anyway, because most of them who take it have been with me for two or three years. And then by the time they finish it and come back later and say, “That was the biggest learning experience I had when I was at school.” That's pretty satisfying as a teacher, you know? So I would guess I would offer that. But each one of them has a special place in my heart for its own reason. AC: Do you have any teaching philosophies that you try to incorporate? RM: I try really hard to – but we do this in all of our theater classes, so I can't claim to be original about this – but we really like the idea of creating unique artists in what we do. There's some programs that I think are trying to cookie cutter a little bit. You know, they're trying to put their stamp – their university, like their way of doing things – as a stamp on a student. And one of the things I've loved about my department all these years is that we're really committed to creating unique artists. And so whenever a student is in one of my classes, I try to take the time to get to know who they are already so that we can serve that as a platform as opposed to going in and like “This is how you'll do this thing,” right? I'm teaching a stage makeup class this semester, and I can just give as an example that there's several different students who are coming from completely different backgrounds and experiences in what they've Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 13 done in the past. And we've all kind of found this sort of fun place where they're each now learning from each other because they're bringing all that collective experience to the table. And I'm not interested in trying to stamp any of that out of them. So without going into a lot of detail about it, one of my philosophies is to teach – I have to admit that I'm probably stealing a little bit of this from Dean Bauer, Dean Dan Bauer – that you teach the students you have, when you meet them where they're at, essentially. And that's one of the things that I found really satisfying is that you have students who come in from all different walks of life, students who come with all different types of experiences, and each one of them is not behind or ahead of any of them. They're just all on a different path. And as much as I can, and I've been lucky enough to be able to keep our class sizes small enough that I can still have that individual connection, I try to use that as much as possible. So that's one of my biggest philosophies, is teach the student where they're at. And try to lead them to discoveries that they get to then make on their own. I like to take them to the place where they reasonably are now going to figure this thing out themselves. And I feel like that kind of teaching allows them to own it more and makes them more likely to retain it. So that I try not to always just give them the answer, so to speak. I try to get them close and then let them figure it out. AC: Do you have any favorite productions that your department’s put on? I know you guys just did Junie B. Jones, did that go well? RM: Yeah, Junie B. Jones was a lot of fun! The colleague of mine who directed that, Dr. KariAnne Innes, she was really good about doing a lot of community outreach. And so we did seven performances; two of them were completely for school kids who got bussed in. And then the daycare here on campus, they brought all the little kids, it was so sweet, they brought all the preschoolers over. And that was really satisfying, you know, having audiences that just were absolutely in awe. For some of them, I know it was the first live theater performance they’d ever seen. Those moments are pretty special, so Junie B. was a lot of fun. Some of the ones that I've really enjoyed…we’re not in a theater space, so I think I can ignore the superstition, but we did a production of Macbeth a number of years ago. That was really unusual in that [pause] we try not to make it “your grandmother's Shakespeare,” is what one of my colleagues has always said, right? We're not going to do it in Shakespearean times and pumpkin hose and tights. And we're going to try to find a way to modernize it for a modern audience that they can find something to relate to. And the production that we did, which was directed by Laura Smiley, another one of my colleagues in the department, was done in a cyber goth kind of world. And at the time I did not know what cyber goth was; I had to go and kind of immerse myself and learn about it. And it was a very, very interesting production that had all kinds of real fun discoveries in terms of Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 14 design. We did some really interesting special effects for that show. Including this – there was a wall of – we used dry ice, and it was a wall of dry ice mist that would cascade down and that was being projected on in order to create the different ghosts that were in the show. And it was so eerie and so . . . anyway, it was so much better than I ever imagined it was going to be. For a lot of reasons that show sticks out to me because of the unusual style, and it was some of some of the best actors that we've, you know, there's always – every year I could say “oh, these were some of the best actors.” Some of the really, truly talented actors that we've had in the department were a part of that production. So that one. I also – going back to what I said earlier, I did have a student who did the makeup design for that show who wound up going to the Kennedy Center with that makeup design. So again, just a lot of things that happened with that show that were pretty spectacular. We've also done a couple, there's a musical – I will self admit that I wasn't always, in my early years of doing theater, wasn't always a musical fan. I came to it over time. I came to theater more through The Glass Menagerie, and Tennessee Williams, and Chekhov, you know that kind of straight play sort of world. So musicals were a little bit harder for me. But I've come to love a couple of them, one of them being The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. We've done two productions of that since I've been here, and it's a group of just the most lovingly misfit kids who are competing in – I think it's the seventh-grade spelling bee, I forget if it's seventh grade – but they’re supposed to be, like, seventh graders competing in this spelling bee. And they're just wonderful representations of just the quirkiness that exists in all of us, you know? And it's just such a fun musical. So that's one of my favorite shows as well. We did a production of Cabaret, back in Miller 1.0 before we moved out. That was really poignant. If you don't know Cabaret, the storyline behind it probably just needs to keep being told. If I'm going to sum it up, in my understanding in a nutshell, it's “history repeats itself if we don't keep reminding ourselves of the things that have happened in the past.” And Cabaret does that in a very sad, kind of meaningful way. But it was a really impactful performance. So there's so many shows that have a little space in my heart because of some certain aspect. Those are some of the big ones. AC: Have you noticed any new trends in performing arts, whether it's in general or just at SRU? RM: That's interesting. One of the things that we've started doing at SRU lately that isn't necessarily new in the world, but that we've started to embrace more is the idea of commissioning new works, like being a new works incubator. Like a space and a faculty that support the idea of being the people who bring the first version of a show onto its feet. And we've had a long, a fairly long history of that. But in the last few years, that's ramped up even more. Like Making Melrose was a piece that we commissioned. Grecian Burns was a musical Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 15 that we did two years ago that we wound up getting to travel that down to Pittsburgh and perform it at [pause] one of the big theater companies down there, as part of the Kennedy Center Festival. So commissioning new works is something that the Theatre Department is kind of renewing our investment in. There's a lot of fun that comes in that, our students get the first chance to bring certain characters to life. You know, we're the first people that are really sort of problem solving, how do we bring this thing to an audience, what are the different aspects? There's a lot to that. A couple of things that have that have become more important to me in the general theater world over the years, I am a huge fan of the kind of storytelling that doesn't need words to tell a story, like the kind of performance that – I mean dance already does this, you know what I mean? So much dance is about telling – maybe not a literal step-by-step story, right? But bringing emotion, bringing feeling, doing things without having to speak. I think sometimes we get lost in the importance of our words, and we forget that sometimes you can say a thousand words and never have to have opened your mouth once. There's a whole branch of theater that does that. And sometimes I use this as an example, so many people have seen the movie Up. Have you seen it too? AC: I have, yeah. RM: In that story, there's a whole sequence, a very sad, kind of heartbreaking sequence about the couple, and what they've gone through in their adult life until they're now these older people. And that whole sequence is so movingly done without a word ever spoken. There's some theater that I've seen, especially when we’ve gone to the Fringe Festival in Edinburgh, that does that so well. I mean, I've never openly wept at a performance except for things like this where it just gets you in a different place. I love that kind of theater. I love the idea of physical theater and not spoken. And then the other thing too, on the flip side, is that I love that technology, of course, is constantly making leaps and bounds. And there's a lot of different people exploring the intersection of film and live theater, you know, because so many people tend to think of them as completely separate art forms. But they also have a lot in common. And there are things out there these days that are trying to kind of find an interesting medium or a middle between them, sometimes in the way that they're presented, sometimes that they combine aspects of live performance and films or projections or something like that. But there's also theater companies that are exploring different ways of presenting theater to people that they're more involved in. There's a term that we use for it that's called “environmental theater,” when you can't really tell the difference between where the actors are and where the audience is sitting. Everybody is there together. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 16 In fact, the first iteration of – there's a musical that was recently fairly popular. It was called Natasha Peter and the Great Comet of 1812. The original production of that was done inside of a tent where the actors, dressed in their clothes from the 1800s, were sitting at the tables with the people who were there to see the show, and they were having drinks and having snacks and everything. And you wouldn't know except for when the show started that these people were kind of sitting amongst you in some ways. That kind of theater I find really interesting: the idea of immersive theater where the audience isn't just sitting in a seat politely, they're actually involved in what's being performed. It's hard to pull that off, you know, it's hard to find a space that supports that stuff. But that's a trend I'm really interested in as well. AC: Has SRU ever done a production like that? RM: So we've done some things that try to incorporate elements of that. But again, it's hard to have a space that supports it because so many spaces we have direct access to are more traditionally arranged theater spaces. You kind of have to have, it's funny in a lot of ways, you kind of have to have what we had before, which is like just a great big empty room in order to pull it off. But there's a theater company down at Pittsburgh called Quantum Theater that is exploring these different kinds of shows where you actually, as an audience, walk to different places to experience the show. You're not just sitting in a chair for two hours. So, no, I can't say that we've done it. We've done small elements of that where you're kind of like diminishing the separation between the audience and the performers, but nothing as full blown as what I'm talking about. AC: Do you have any words of wisdom for current Slippery Rock community members or students? RM: That's another really good question. Well, I think it's just, I guess words of wisdom would be just keep listening to each other. I think one of the things that I've had a few experiences recently, the challenge of navigating the situation was that people just weren't listening to each other, right? And I think there's so many people here that have so many great ideas, that would just be something I would say to everybody. In fact, I've said it to a couple of my colleagues recently, that we just all need to sit down and hear each other out. And I think that would solve a lot of the problems that we have. But in terms of words of wisdom, I mean, I just think one of the great things about a university is that we bring so many people from different walks of life together into the same place, and that we should try to soak as much of it up as we can from that, not see it as an issue or a problem, but that we should try to learn from each other in those situations. But, I think I would offer that. AC: How would you like to be remembered at Slippery Rock? Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania Morrice, Rebecca 17 RM: That’s a good one too. [Pause]. I think as far as being remembered, I just, you know, I try really hard to do my job well. Having come from a theater background, everything is about problem solving. And a lot of times it's problem solving with not a lot of the resources that you wish you had. And always since I've been here, it's always about like, what's the best thing for our students? I think that's the biggest thing I can say about wanting to be remembered. Because I'm just hoping that most of the students that I've had experience with or have spent time with, you know, that we've had some moment where, at least at a moment, if not more, where I had some kind of impact on them. And I think that having been here now for 28 years, and having had experience of lots of alumni now, I think one of the greatest things that happens is when a student can relay back to you what the impact was that you had on them. And I don’t need for it to be big; I'm not somebody who has, like, a big ego. I'm a behind-the-scenes person, you know, I'm a costume designer. I don't want to be on stage. But what means the most to me is when I offered a student either a learning experience or just a moment that we spent together that really impacted them. And that's what I'm hoping for, you know. AC: Is there anything else that you want to add? RM: No. As long as that was clear and you could hear it. AC: Yeah! Thank you so much for doing this. RM: Sure, thank you, thank you so much. Rock Voices: The Oral History Project of Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania